I have been in similar situations where it is damned if I do damned if I dont. Thanks Springfield. SA created it). Nothing unethical about this practice. The lobbyist for the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), Jay Keller,traded that groups opposition to the bill in exchange for a carve-out, removing PrairieState firearms manufacturers from the licensing requirements. Send a signal to IL Senators and the Governor that supporting the bill is politically a trainwreck. I would have called my lawyer, the NRA and a publicist. The NRA would likely throw you and your fliers in the dumpster. Magpul moved to WY. We need to defend our legacy from the likes of them !! We beat back a similar bill last year. It may not even pass the House. Maybe thats the case in many instances, but its not like the IFMA has thousands of members. So how is screwing your customer base over a sound business strategy? I considered buying an XDs when I was looking for a conceal carry, glad I bought something else. Absolutely love them. If RRA really didnt know about this, then their next steps should be to cancel their membership in IFMA, denounce the lobying they did, and maybe start looking to move. Its sad but it happens. Hes totally grasping at straws on that point in his video. Im not selling it because of this cluster, but Im not buying from RRA again either. Rock River Arms, Incorporated is a manufacturing company in Colona, Illinois that manufacturers parts and accessories for AR-15 / M16 type rifles, as well as other firearms. Rock River Arms is owned and operated by brothers Mark and Chuck Larson. Between 1981 and 1991 the Larsons worked at Springfield Armory, Inc., where Mark was the head armorer. They are a leader in the firearms field with a vast array of products that work correctly. had I known earlier, I might have bought a few more colt revolvers..god I wish Id known. Illinois cant shut down a business that way No there is no way around it, RRA and Springfield decided their Illinois customers where not worth the trouble. When S&W is in the position to potentially block anti-gun legislation but decides not to because it is better for their business even if it screws their customers, THEN YOU WILL SEE ME call for an S&W boycott. Grow the hell up and when you get some big boy panties and own your own business you will understand how it works. Asit should. If truth about guns knows whats good for them, theyll be taking this story down and apologizing publicly for spreading untrue assumptions. The RRA LAR-15 is a quality gun, in just about any configuration you can come up with. Springfield Armory had two, and their now-fired lobbyist held the fourth IFMA directorship. Ive heard of them canceling orders. AR-10-style rifles, the Rock River Arms LAR-8 stands alone. Neither excuse is a proper justification. Start by giving everyone involved a TSA-style probe. No more. Maybe worst of all, passage gives anti-gunners a win they desperately needed. I am sure you do not mean Nissan or Beretta both of which picked up and moved to Tennessee for their headquarters (as well as many other companies). He kept his marginal Mini-14 from hitting the list, selling out the gun owner in the process! The original company lives on today under the name Winche ster. Was also saving up for an m1a. Hes told several industry types that he had no contact with IFMA lobbyist Jay Keller and knew nothing of this carve-out. First, they co-opt the name of a famous military armory to start a business with absolutely no ties to the original Springfield. theyre NOT trapped in Illinois,they can relocate,same as other gun companies have done. Hence why, even with Democrats holding a super-majority in both our House and Senate, and a rabidly anti-gun Governor, we held the line even post-Newtown. This is why I said should not will. The Ceo needs to retire, and everyone on the upper levels canned to. Glad to see TTAG not shy away from it. The response was to Mark about the others being vastly superior, not your comment. CZ-75/85 are great guns. You write as though weve been asleep. Whats the hangup for SA? Rock River Arms guarantees this pistol will shoot 2.5-inch groups at 50 yards with 185-grain Federal Gold Medal Match semi-wadcutter ammo. Springfield for intention; RRA for negligence. S&W was sold for 12% of its former value. Be everywhere until the bill is toast. In my collection i have a M1A, a Socom 16, a XDM in 45 and a XDmod2 in 9mm. Regardless of who did what,the after-effects of this deal and a legislative loss will be felt far beyond Illinois for some time to come. Indiana has a good climate for manufacturers of firearms, and I wouldnt mind seeing a few more ffls open up shop near me in Northwest Indiana, either. Even if its expensive, SA is in a better position to pay the fee than Hank and Ethels gun shop. Pennsylvania checking in. A big reason that these rifles shoot so well is the barrel. The barrels Rock River use come from the Connecticut-based company, Wilson Arms (wilsonarms.com). Wilson makes the barrel, contours it and starts the chambering process. Theyve earned back the support of 2A advocates, imo. If signed into law, the bill his lobbyist declined to oppose will drive many dealers out of business with its onerous and expensive restrictions and requirements. Theyre both stuck now. And then maybe. Had it in the cart at buds ready to buy tomorrow and now it definitely is not going to happen. Most importantly, support our brothers in arms in Illinois. I bought my first Rock Well do our part in other states to support you. Not to mention that when S&W colluded with Clinton they were owned by the British engineering firm Tomkins. Colona, IL (May 2020) Rock River Arms, one of the industry leaders in AR-platform firearms, expands its line of defensive semi-autos with the introduction of the RRAGE 10.5-inch pistol. They see deep-blue Illinois as a great place toenact more of their gun control schemes. What opinion? Probably go back to looking at CZ and Walther offerings. As has been said by numerous others, that Springer I had thought about buying just got thrown under the bus. (And I can guarantee he would never speak to me like that in person.). This would appear to be financial suicide by Springfield. business or not your customers are your lively hood. Many companies make mistakes, sometimes huge. Dont forget about the Ruger, Smith and Wesson sellout.. You see once you jump in bed with the marketing types and throw millions at image you quickly discover that your rudder fell off long ago and now youre not sure what you stand forif anything. Last Updated. Personally hate to hear whenever CEOs or head honchos make public decisions costing their employees jobs/money. An American voting for a Democrat As I said on Thursday, when it comes to RRA I was, and still am, unsure if they had any foreknowledge of what was about to occur. I cannot in good conscience support in any way a company that would pull this kind of stunt. The RBG-1S is available in .308 Win./7.62x51 and 6.5 Creedmoor, with a 20-, 22- or 24-inch barrel, and a black, green or tan stock. Rock Rivers LAR-15 NSP CAR is a lightweight, reliable, well-made and accurate AR carbine that is ready for duty right out of is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. Id say they are a step above most other production 1911s. More recently, they do this big Saint countdown/reveal that just ends up being Another Entry-Level AR-15, just what the market needed. Web50%. Meanwhile, over at the Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. Your Price: $744.13. Go and ask them and Youtube/Periscope their responses. CEODennis Reese hasntresponded to a request for comment or a further statement beyond the one he released Thursday night. Springfield, on the other hand, has gone silent. Today, we have nearly one dozen gun control groups working in Illinois. This attention to accuracy is especially evident in Rock Rivers new model, the Advanced Tactical Hunter V2 (ATH V2). Springfield Armory today is a strong supporter of everything 2A. Rock River Arms has But I didnt detect a lot of love in his words. I hope they go out of business and leave the dishonesty to our opponents. How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? Who Makes Rock River Arms? After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). As far as Im concerned, Smith and Wesson are still shit given they operate in communist MA and they should have packed up an left after what that bitch Maura Healey did last year. So, S and W are also dead to me. Im sorry, I mean they would ask after putting you and your fliers in the dumpster. Boom. WebCoyote Carbine Upper Half LAR-15M .300 AAC. Its like trying to work with Bloomberg himself. He was busted before for bribing a Colonel on a Salvadorean arms deal. Czech Republic makes good guns,like CZs. Well, said. RRA looks pretty darn guilty or pretty darn incompetent. NOW all I can think is SHAME ON YOU!!!!!! Theres no way to know for sure. Katrina gun confiscation showed us what any civil conflict will have as the belligerents, LEOs / Feds posing as LEOs giving you a hard choice.and a few Bundy-style standoffs. Not a nice odor. After the next civil war, we wont allow another one. I can promise that none, and I mean none of my not unsubstantial refund, is going to wind up in Springfields receivables account. No Springfield guns for me. The company makes a wide variety of weapons, including AR-15 and M16 rifles, as well as pistols, shotguns, and bolt-action rifles. I think it was meant to be used with gloves on only. RRA models, like the RRAGE, LAR15, BTB, ATH, LAR68 & Light Mountain, are available in many different color options and calibers. The silent majority will get the shaft, not gonna be any civil war, get over yourself. Performance Tuned. This Rock River PCC shows itself to be a well-engineered carbine ready to work (and look good doing it). I own or have owned a number of AR's, including a couple of LaRue's, a KAC, a PWS and a POF. I swear its getting hard to keep track of them all by memory. Other places have them for $200.00. Search Ruger anti gun. Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. 3/18/2013. Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. Who the hell made this business decision and have they been fired yet? Hes told several industry types that he had no contact with IFMA lobbyist Jay Keller and knew nothing of this carve-out. As far as the betrayal, bear in mind that it was the act of a couple of people and unfortunately there are plenty of freedom loving 2nd Amendment supporters working for SA that will be harmed by their bad judgement. And Im not giving them up, to anybody, under any circumstances. There is too much crap that I dont have a choice on (can you believe EVERY RV tire is made in China? There should be a hall of shame for betrayals (and later repentances) by gun companies. What would I do if I was RRA and SAI? RRA donated money as well I think they knew about stuff going on, but want to pretend they did not. Imagine, a corrupt Illinois politician! Its easy for consumers to march elsewhere, skilled Illinois tradespeople may not be so lucky. Kahr moved out of NY. My 1911 search continues and Ill never purchase a Springfield. I just wish there was a good M14 clone I could get. At least Henry, like Ruger, is 100% American. (Im a 30 yr Vet). Shame! The Rock River Arms LAR-15 RRage 3G 5.56/.223 Rifle is a semi-auto rifle that delivers accurate shooting in a dependable platform with a clean, trim look. Very close to where I grew up. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 LEF-T 5.56mm Tactical Operator AR-15 Left-Handed Rifle Notify Me When Available; Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: LH1278; Rock River Arms LAR15 So thats a reason for ignoring the fact that Ruger basically wrote the assault weapons ban? WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. Glock and S&W sell their guns to states like NY, NJ, HI that trample our 2A rights every day but I dont see you bashing them and Ill bet most of you own a Glock or a S&W. If these dam gun man. Was very interested in this new pistol too as a possible single-stack semi-auto alternative to my J-frame. AR Parts. Free Shipping On Most Rifles, Upper Halves And Complete Lower Halves. SA, who knows, maybe they can retool to make manure spreaders. Then beg for forgiveness. I ended up buying an Honor Defense Honor Guard. Very pleased with it, as it has most of the features I wanted on a CC weapon. I had some AR parts on order a few days before Sands Hook. Until we destroy that party America will continue to be destroyed from within. IF WE LOSE RRA BECAUSE OF THIS HYSTERICAL REACTION, thats a blow to liberty. Peoplr lose jobs, get divorced, buy better guns and so on. This year, State Senator Don Harmon needed IFMA to end their opposition to his bill. WebSo What Happened At Rock River Arms & Springfield Armory??? So many good options, why buy from jackasses. job creation they call it (bribery is such a dirty word). I agree. More interesting question: can Springfield even attempt to disavow at this point? Which would help with elimination if in the future. Well, not basically, they did. Moved my medical business AND brought my family. In your opinion. Why does Ruger all of the sudden get a pass on treachery? Springfield is DEAD to me. Simply offering ideas and encouragement. And unbelievably stupid of Springfield. see: gasoline supply during any natural disaster where the govt threatens to prosecute profiteers. Better sell that RRA while you still can. Meanwhile, theres another, ahem, firearm blog, that refuses to address the SA/RRA issue. Ive never had better customer service with any other business. Of course there will be others that benefit as well. AND started planning to move out of the state. The ATH V2 comes with an 18-inch, stainless steel, And IFMA successfully lobbied and got a manufactures exemption this bill . A CEO that listens to the customer. Its a freakin disaster. Also, RRA derives the bulk of its money from government and LE contracts so youll have a really hard time bankrupting them with a civvie sales boycott. Defending Your Legacy is obviously just a marketing slogan for Springfield. AND everyone that the lobbyist represents must be in agreement. Most places, its still over $1500. Even being on this site makes you a hypocrite because TTAG regularly advertised for Glock, S&W and Springfield. That being said, even if we do, Springfield is done as a company. You have entered an incorrect email address! IRS records have also been found that shows Reese is on the board of IFMA. God Bless America, As a dealer I will no longer suggest either one of these firearm companies to my customers or stock them there are many other fine firearms on the market. All of these rifles are vastly superior to Ruger. As the old adage goes, put up or shut up. Bill Ruger retired from the company in 2000 and died in 2002. An M1A was at the top of my wish list that I saving for. They can spout their support of the 2A all day, just like Shannon Watts does, but its just words. Huh? Not a smart move in a buyers market, or any really. Wrong. The Illinois Manufacturers Association will continue to fight and protect not only manufacturers, but dealers and the gun owner as well.. No sane company would move in to Illinois unless it was to curry political favor in Chicago as Boeing moving their HQ (no production) did. How does a company respond to pernicious laws and an atmosphere which is detrimental to the People of the Gun? It weighs 10.2 pounds empty and is 43.5 inches long. they should have fought not laid over. The CMMG MkW-15 XBE Anvil gets the top pick for enthusiasts that handload or shoot a lot. Along with lost new sales, this boneheaded move will kill resale values. Built on the companys RRAGE upper and lower receiver and handguard assemblies, the pistol delivers a sleek profile. Springfield isnt doing anything that the vast majority of companies do, protecting their bottom line. In short, this means rifle-makers need to adapt, and one company taking that step is Rock River Arms (RRA) with its LAR-15 Operator III in 5.56mm NATO. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Lightweight Mountain Rifle | MT1800X 5.56 NATO (223 Rem), 16" Chrome-Moly Lightweight BBL, Semi-Automatic, 6-Position Black Stock, Black Finish, RRA Lightweight, 30+1 Rds. Down side is nobody making spare mags for it yet other than Hornor Defense. Larson first said Rock River Arms had broken ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturing Association which is only a four member board. once you jump in bed with the marketing types. Great gun. The Henry ri fle was made by the New Haven Ar ms Company. After the 2004 sunset of the Assault Weapons Ban, AR pistols developed rapidly and have become popular. Wow, the article on Reese is incredible. Are they doing town halls? In order to try to get a lock on about 1.6 million FOID holders in Illinois, Springfield has angered the other 80 million gun owners in the rest of the nation. If you dont support Ruger you dont support American ideals. If for no other reason than as a cautionary tale to other would be future sell outs. One of the few cases of sincere contrition. (3) Rock River Arms LAR-15 Tactical CAR A4 223 Remington/5.56 NATO Carbine $ 684.99. Now Springfield will learn the hard way. I used to have a TRP. Whats the feedback at the NRA show running like? RRA and Springfield can suck my dong, they will never get a penny from me. I had the EMP4 Contour and a TRP on my 2017 list. Also check out the BM 59 kits and complete rifles out there. They have a good ongoing business, why jeopardize it? Everyone (hopefully) recognizes that Bloomberg et al use bad legislation in NY and elsewhere as models to sell to politicians elsewhere, hence the need to use all available legal avenues to demonstrate the fallout from such actions. I cant imagine the CEOs of those two companies werent in the loop on these negotiations. Please, spend your money where you want. Brownells, Midway, Primary arms, Rainer, Wing Tactical, and SG Ammo are my favorite online retailers. Smith and Wessons deal with the Klinton regime also brought us the infamous and deplorable hillary hole internal lock. And yes, they are actually closer to Iowa than to Chicago. Because of rumors of canceled orders. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. If workers still want a job, its a reasonable commute. I think they and Illinois deserve each other and I hope they both end up on the wrong end of history. I would sell the xd .45 and the xdm 9mm I already have but I dont think there is much of a market for them now. Thats how capitalism works. Lower Half, A2 Stock Just From $410. Do you rednecks and white trash go out of your way to get the their wrong every single time? Companies move all the time. James Jeffrey, the author's friend, This wasnt the first time gun dealer licensing has come up in Illinois. Perhaps a company thought they could pull a fast one and nobody would notice. What part of their history am I missing Gov? Watch the TonyBen videos on YouTube. Helps to have the older experience but not insurmountable. Or companies selling imported crap that pretend to be American. Two more companies added to my do not buy from list. I thought it was great that they were living in the same liberal hell hole that I was living in. No further recommendation about the products will be made. The rights of citizens that theyve agreed to negotiate away will NEVER be restored. This is going to be really bad for RRA and Springfield. Springfield Armory is a dishonest operation from stem to stern. I want to see how they fix the mess they created with the people who liked their product. I think a hit to Springfield sales should get them leaning on the IFMA (who should be facing a hit to subscribers) enough for the IFMA to not fold in the future. Illinois gun owners should pack up and move across the Mississippi to Missouri. Find Senators and Representatives in close political battles last election and get their previously defeated opponents on board. What would you have done differently if you ran SA or RRA with a workforce that is similarly trapped in soviet Illinois and depends on your company staying open and profitable to keep their jobs? Wheres the proof they had enough influence to dictate what that organization did. We do not need traitors in our midst. Obviously Springfield and others have not learned this lesson and are going down the same road. This just proves that point. PERIOD. You would answer your own question if you noticed my opening remark: Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. The company was founded in 1996 by brothers Mark and Lynne Zanders. They did what they had to do to stay profitable just like companies in Kalifornia and NewYork and liberal bastions. They ignored it. Great grip and trigger. The Ruger is berween $6-700. When you need mags that you can count on with each and every shot, make sure you turn to Rock River Arms! RRA IS THE ONLY COMPANY THAT CAN MAKE A RELIABLE AR-10. It only sells a 100% American Made product using American Labor. If IFMA had stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the NRA-ILA, the Illinois State Rifle Association, Guns Save Lifeand the National Shooting Sports Foundation working as a team to oppose this egregiousbill wed have had a good chance of depriving anti-gunners of a badly needed win. It will make my future purchases easier because two manufacturers are automatically removed from my search and consideration. This should put some perspective on how important this issue is to many of us. This will damage Springfield Armorys brand nation-wide, in a business where reputation is everything. Magpul moved. Made in US, SSteel frame, ambi controls, no mag safety, field strips/assembles in less than a minute with no tools or pulling trigger. Only Ruger has in the past few years regularly donated millions to the NRA. I buy and shoot a lot of guns, and this includes SA models, but I have put them on notice that I will never buy another unless they make this right. IMO, this last election postponed the literal civil war Ive been advocating for for over 10 years. CTD is my last choice. Overall, this is a good, solid rifle. Rock River Arms sent me a 6.5 Creedmoor rifle with a tan stock and 24-inch barrel for testing. Never a single problem, thousands of rounds. They are more than welcome in southern Indiana. Especially ones outside Chiraq. I hate to say this Tony, but you are completely clueless about lobbyists. Never give one inch or miles will be lost. Beretta kicked Maryland to the curb for their ridiculous gun laws. Out of stock Compare. Ive bought 4 guns in the last year and a half since they opened their store. They hate this stuff because opponents can use it. Sooner or later they are going to destroy you. And whats worse, if it passes, Bloomberg will attempt to duplicate this legislation in all 50 states. Whats more, Larsonseems genuinely appalled by what happened. Never sold out to foreign companies or parts sources or manufacturing or skimped on quality control. Hugely disappointing. thats what matter and they put that last. Its not difficult. Screw CTD. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. With support like that, who needs Everytown? The rifle comes fully loaded with a Rock River two-stage There are millions of people in the US who no longer think that its enough to fight and die for these rights. Ive refused to buy S&W products since then, with the sole exception of a Model 640 Pro .357 Magnum, which lacks the damned thing. Maybe they should look to Beretta. Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. Anyone who tries will come out worse for the experience. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. Thats not fighting to protect gun owners. Smith and Ruger more than compensated for erroneous thinking. Local politicians always give tax incentives to move. Rock River's LAR-458 is the top pick for hunters because of its value, excellent trigger and superb accuracy. That guy knows the M14 and M1a rifles. This rifle is fed by a 10-round AICS-pattern detachable box magazine. I dont buy imported guns so SA & RRA are not going to loose any sales because of me. The Springfields looked to be a good value. So I got the mags from a third party seller and have refused to do business with them ever since. My target is when my oldest daughter graduates from high school. If youve already implemented them, great. Its pretty much just SA and RRA (and maybe a few tiny shops, but those are pretty much the only two big gun makers in Illinois). Ben Franklin once said, If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately.. This new model is the latest in the growing line of rifles and pistols based on the RRAGE platform. I have an SA Profesional that I really like and was strongly considering a Custom Carry, but this turn of events gives me a real pause to that idea. Enjoy 45% Off Rock River Arms Goods At Walmart. (This is in response to Mark). When I explained that sales were still legal before the SAFE Act deadline went into force, they still refused. Damn This is turning into that mob with the torches looking for Frankenstein. January 2023. Good grip, low muzzle flip/recoil, ambi controls, no mag safety and very easy to strip/reassemble. And now a sell out. It was a great decision, I have never looked back. Customer service beyond any reproach. We want our dealers and our valued customers to know we wont ever do anything like this again., We fully support the Second Amendment and stand by it. If you dont like their price dont buy. Ive never had an issue with CTD in a decade. September 30, 2010 By Greg Rodriguez. I imagine that there will be a few FFLs leaving IL. Apples and suspension bridges here. This companys name is Mudd. Lots of work. These fat dumb and happy political hacks arent used to burning time and money on issues this far out. With the Hillarys loss there is no longer a looming gun ban on the horizon and the firearm industry and market is facing a correction. When no one else had any left. You ask what was Springfield supposed to do? Easy there tough guy. No they dont. Nobody moves a company to New York (Remington has moved most out). Bullshit. Now I wish I had not. Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins.. This rifle also has an RRA TRO-XL extended free float rail handguard and an accuracy of 3/4 MOA at 100 Yards. This is how capitalism works. Posted: 1/27/2021 10:51:01 AM EST. Pick something and follow it. They must be put out of business for their treachery. Rugers stated public position was screw every other gun manufacturer and screw the American gun owners, as long as Ruger makes it and we want government contracts! 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